In episode 336 astrologer Richard Tarnas joins the show to talk about the meaning of the planet Pluto in astrology.
In astrology Pluto is generally associated with power, control, manipulation, intensity, the underworld, taboos, transformations, destruction and regeneration, death and rebirth, making big things small and small things big.
Richard is the author of the 2006 book Cosmos and Psyche: Intimations of a New World View, and he previously appeared on episode 84 of The Astrology Podcast in 2016 to talk about the book on its 10 year anniversary.
At the beginning of the episode we talked a bit about the recent conjunction of Saturn and Pluto in 2020, how it coincided with the beginning of the pandemic, and how Richard felt about having discussed that cycle in Cosmos and Psyche in retrospect. Some of this was tied into a discussion in episode 254 titled Misconceptions About Mundane Astrology in the Media.
Later we get into the discovery of Pluto, discuss how astrologers establish the meaning of new planets, and then read through some passages from different astrologers that talk about the meaning of Pluto.
Later in the episode we also touch on how to deal with skeptics of astrology, and how to demonstrate the validity of astrology in general.
We also discuss a new astrology documentary series based on Richard’s work titled Changing of the Gods, which will be released next month.
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This episode is available in both audio and video versions below.
Timestamps for when we discuss different topics in the episode:
00:02:25 Welcoming Richard + Changing of the Gods series
00:08:25 Uranus-Pluto alignments
00:11:10 Reflections on the Saturn-Pluto conjunction of 2020
00:32:07 How do astrologers establish the meaning of new planets?
00:57:00 Pluto significations in Reinhold Ebertin
01:05:09 Robert Hand’s Pluto significations
01:12:48 Richard Tarnas’ Pluto significations
01:31:30 World events coinciding with Pluto’s discovery
01:38:45 Pluto return of the United States
01:46:40 Depth psychology and Pluto
02:05:47 Pluto makes big things small and small things big
02:11:02 Venus-Pluto aspects
02:25:05 Jupiter-Pluto aspects
02:33:25 Orbs and Archetypal Explorer
02:43:04 Dealing with skeptics of astrology
02:57:35 The goal of Cosmos and Psyche
03:08:10 Experience vs. intellectual argument for convincing skeptics
03:15:30 Pluto’s demotion to dwarf planet
03:30:46 Astrology as a gift from the cosmos
03:36:09 Changing of the Gods documentary
03:39:16 Concluding remarks, patrons, and sponsors
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